If u don't know your history... you'll be doomed to repeat it

America has this really bad habit of freaking the public out...
to the point of senseless murder...
a controlled mass hysteria...
whether by our government or fellow citizens, it's a scary thing...

watch your back! u never know if you'll be tagged a witch, a freedom fighter, a commie or a terrorist

here's some info on one way history seems to continually repeat itself... all of the info is from wikipedia... i've underlined the reoccurring themes

Salem Witch Trails
February 1692 to May 1693

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings before local magistrates followed by county court of trials to prosecute people accused of witchcraft in Essex, Suffolk and Middlesex counties of colonial Massachusetts, between February 1692 and May 1693. The episode has been used in political rhetoric and popular literature as a vivid cautionary tale about the dangers of religious extremism, false accusations, lapses in due process, and governmental intrusion on individual liberties. In Salem Town, over 150 people were arrested and imprisoned, with even more accused but not formally pursued by the authorities. At least five more of the accused died in prison... The courts convicted 29 people of the capital felony of witchcraft. 19 of the accused, 14 women and 5 men, were hanged. One man (Giles Corey) who refused to enter a plea was crushed to death under heavy stones in an attempt to force him to do so.

Nearly 5,000 Blacks were lynched
in the United States between 1860 and 1890

Lynching, as a form of punishment for presumed criminal offenses, performed by self-appointed commissions, mobs, or vigilantes without due process of law took place in the United States before the American Civil War and afterwards, from southern states to western frontier settlements. The term "Lynch's Law" (and subsequently "lynch law" and "lynching") apparently originated during the American Revolution when Charles Lynch, a Virgina justice of the peace, ordered extralegal punishment for Tory acts. In the South, members of the abolitionist movement or other people opposing slavery were usually targets of lynch mob violence before the Civil War. During the war, Southern Home Guard units sometimes lynched white Southerners whom they suspected of being Unionist or deserters; one example of this was the hanging of Methodist minister Bill Sketoe in the south Alabama town of Newton in December 1864.

After the war, southern whites struggled to maintain social dominance. Secret vigilante and insurgent groups such as the KKK instigated extrajudicial assaults and killings to keep power and to discourage freedmen from voting, working and becoming educated. Mobs usually had alleged crimes for which they lynched blacks. In the late 19th century, however, journalist Ida B. Wells showed that many presumed crimes were exaggerated or did not occur.

roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s
McCarthyism is the politically motivated practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communisy influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now use more gernerally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.

During the post-World War II era of McCarthyism, many thousands of Americans were accused of being Communists or communist sympathizers and became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private-industry panels, committees and agencies. The primary targets of such suspicions were government employees, those in the entertainment industry, educators and union activists. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs was often greatly exaggerated. Many people suffered loss of employment, destruction of their careers, and even imprisonment. Most of these punishments came about through trial verdicts later overturned, laws that would be declared unconstitutional, dismissals for reasons later declared illegal or actionable, or extra-legal procedures that would come into general disrepute.

right now... duh

***** so my thoughts on terrorism is that its the same thing as McCarthyism... i dunno know if anyone else is saying it, so i will... these days anyone can be tagged a terrorist. and if i'm not mistaken, according to the patriot act, we loose our rights and privacy once the government decides we can't be trusted anymore... meaning being arrested without being charged with anything, no rights to a lawyer, phone and home taps without your knowledge... and god forbid u "look" like a terrorist, because then you're subject to being profiled by anyone off of the street

don't think it effects u? actually the government has a "list" and once you're on it you're screwed... a couple people included on this list include authors exercising their second ammendment rights, soldiers who have dedicated their lives to fighting for this country but maybe disagree with something the military has asked them to do, and i'm pretty sure there is a completely innocent 8 yr old on that list who's been on it since he was 2... trust me... it effects u

wiki's definition of terrorism:
Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. At present, there is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism. Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).

Some definitons also include acts of unlawful violence and war. The history of terrorist organizations suggest that they do not select terrorism for its political effectiveness. Individual terrorist tend to be motivated more by a desire for social solidarity with other members of their organization than by political platforms or strategic objectives, which are often murky and undefined.

Terrorism has been practiced by a broad array of political organizations for furhtering their objectives. It has been practiced by both right-wing and left-wing political parties. One form is the use of violence against noncombatants for the purpose of gaining publicity for a group, cause, or individual groups, religious groups, revolutionaries and ruling governements.



  1. this could be interesting conversation... what r other historical faux pas that keep popping up?

  2. There were 2 people from Iraq hired at my job. Both of them were very well educated and each had a good head on their shoulders. I was told that they submitted over 100 aplications and only recieved a call back from my job.

    I'm very certain that if they were from ahywhere else in the world they would not have had such a hard time finding a job. Then at my job someone told me that they thought one of them was planning something because he seemed to be always looking around to her.

    I'm sure that most people from the middle east suffer from this same problem.

  3. Ever since the patriot act was established all of our phone conversations are monitored. When certain words are said it triggers the monitoring device to begin recording the conversation so that the contents of it can be reviewed.

  4. I asked you a question which somewhat reguarded the terrorist portion of your blog.

    I asked you if you thought Al Queda was really responsible for the 9/11 terror attacks.

    Once upon a time I believed everything i was told by the media and our "elected" government officials.

    Unfortunately I have come to see lots of evidence that has caused all that to change.

  5. Its a form of crowd control...its been happening since the beginning of time...any facets of power seem to do whatever they can to maintain it...whether its a capitalistic or a dictatorship society. Martin Luther King and John Lennon were all on the "communist" list because they were a threat to the government of the Nixon era...its ridiculous but the government will do whatever it takes to get the people on there side...in the end we do make a big difference its only if we choose to wake up and realize what politics and people in those positions of power are all about. Theres been so much dirt thrown around from all angles but people are like sheep...and I'm not a christian but I realize now why in the bible people are referred to that...because the majority of us are followers...its time to wake up and start realizing politics for what it is only then can we change it...like V for Vendetta one of my favorite comics written in the 80's. :)

  6. its such a shame that we live in a country that's run in such a foul manner... makes me wanna read 1984 again, lol... i really wish the american public wasn't so trusting of our government... i wish they could see what was happening, especially when its right in front of our faces... even the real estate crisis (another form of financial control by our government) has been a reoccurring theme throughout history... this is the exact kind of crisis we were duped into as the one in the 1920s! bank runs then... bank runs now... banks going outta business and getting bought up by bigger banks then... banks going outta business and getting bought up by bigger banks now... its big banking working on their monopoly, which (i know i'm stating the obvious)is completely illegal... not that they care... they control the money so they live above the law.

    as far as who was involved in 9/11... i don't know... i can only believe the documents and evidence that i see for myself and i just don't think that we have access to the sort of things that would prove who was involved...

    but i don't put anything past our government... i kno the ppl running this country are corrupt... i kno they're liars... i know they can't be trusted... i kno they'll do anything for control, power and money... i know they've been doing business with the "terrorist" for years... and i know they wouldn't blink an eye to kill innocent ppl to accomplish what they want... so because of lack of physical proof i don't feel right pointing the finger at any one group or institution... but i wouldn't be surprised if 9/11 was an inside job in some way, shape or form.

  7. 1984 and Farenheit 451 were too great books...saw more than what the norm would expect :). But we all know money runs the show always has always will be....only thing we can do is change peoples mindsetting and hope that one day these old politicians who've been running the show for decades get pushed out....you got to destroy to rebuild...and this is the standpoint of our economy at stake...everybody hates politicians but love there state representative...that shit doesn't even make sense...lol..but those are the latest polls and people are content on mediocracy and being blind. As far as 911 who knows...I don't believe it was a gov't set up but I do believe the gov't set up "extra" things to make it seem more horrible than it was...and don't get me wrong it was horrible all together...what I don't understand is..how is one of the most secure buildings in the world...the pentagon get hit when "A"...there is a no fly zone over ANY federal building...let alone the pentagon the most important and protected besides the white house..."B" when there are two jumbo engine turbines...I would imagine you would have two large holes...instead of one hole when it does crash into something..."C" How the hell did a giant boeing 757 miss all those telephone polls and wires?...if you watch old news footage all the polls and wiring are still up...iono how all that shit navigated through that mess...its impossible...didn't even damage the grass....my theory shit was already hitting the fan...lets make it worst and shoot a missle at the pentagon to let them know they weren't the only ones attacked...then lets get Bush re-elected again cause he knows how to protect the american people(Bullshit)...start a war his dad never finished with Sadaam...gauge the oil fields...and take over the middle east slowly and look like the white knights while doing so..propraganda at its finest....

  8. One of the greatest methods of control is fear. That is exactly what the 9/11 "Terror" Attacks did. The attacks made it so that most American citizens were happy to surrender so many rights. The Patriot Act seemed like a godsend to so many of us back at that time. Why wouldnt we want our phone conversations monitored if it meant there was a chance at catching some would-be terrorist out there. Lets not forget the fact that we had to shore up our airport security. We had to make sure such dangerous things as water bottles weren't able to make it on airplanes anymore. So many things changed for us after 9/11.

    Now cocerning the Pentagon. Mr/Mrs. Anonymous pointed out so many valid points.When you consider the footage of the pentagon. All we ever see is the damage caused to the building. There is no airplane debris in sight. Not to mention the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most secure building in the nation so it baffles me that NOT ONE camera was able to catch the airplane crashing into the building. Try sneaking into the Pentagon from any direction and I'm certain that they will know your coming. How in the world did they manage to miss a plane with all the video cameras positioned in countles numbers of places there? The whole thing baffles me. Lets also not forget that the part of the pentagon that was struck by the plane was the least sensitive portion of the entire building. The causualties consisted of mostly clarical workers. Anyone who mattered was tucked away safely on on the other side of the building or in one of the internal rings.

    These things that have been mentioned are only the tip of the iceburg. There are so many other huge and glaring anomalies reguarding the 9/11 attacks.

  9. there's is one website that i've found that claims to have footage of the plane flying into the pentegon... its hogwash to me, lol... a sorry attempt at proof


    and here are pics of some plane debris from the pentagon (doesn't impress me in the least):


  10. Speaking of debris, where was the flight 93 debris? You can barely find any footage of the Pensilvania crash site anywhere. The little bits that I saw simply showed nothing but a big whole in the groung. Its not like the plane blew up mid air. It came down as one whole piece. Why wasn't the bulk of the debris at the crash site? They should have stuck with the original story where Donald Rumsfield said that the plane was shot down. That would have pieced together with the debris they supposedly found three miles away.

    The big empty hole in the ground never sat well with me. Every plane crash I have ever seen thst fell onto solid land always had the plane on site. Except one. FLIGHT 93.

  11. I just saw the video to the link you posted. I say the video because the second of the two didnt work for me unfortunately.

    I find it very hard to believe that with that frame by frame camera all that could be seen was a piece of something white (which looked way too small to be a plane by the way)and a flash of light followed by the explosion. I saw not one airplane fragment enter the building or in the air. Not a one.

    I find it strange that that one section of the building was newly remodeled and half emtpy.

    With the sort of time it takes to remodel anything im very certain they had more than ample enough time to place explosive all along the inside of the building in a manner that nobody would have been able to find it if they saw fit.

    I could very well be mistaken on this next item so i will do a little reseach to find out for sure. The Twin Towers coincidentaly underwent a very similar remodel

  12. Turns out i was correct. I found this info on a site just prior to me giving up.

    please note that this is not my own writings.


    Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001. A December 2000 WTC property assessment described required renovation work to be completed within one year, upon steel columns within elevator shafts of both WTC towers that was immediately pending or already underway.

    Terror devastates A/E/C firms

    12 employees of Turner Construction were located in an office in the third subbasement of Tower 1, the north tower. Turner had been performing renovation work in various parts of the center and had occupied various office spaces.


  13. there's def some fishy shit goin on behind the curtains... makes me wanna pick up and leave... but i have faith in this country... as long as we continue to let ppl know that the wool is being pulled over our eyes

  14. Don't get me wrong ladies and gentlemen, I am by no means anti-america. Sometimes when you love someone or in this case a country so much you tend to ignore any faults or wrong doings. I have. Just finally opened my eyes to what this country really is. We live in a nation that is not against the idea of the idea of stepping on a few toes to achieve it goals. Even if that cost the lives of countless innocent civilians.

    If the people who control the United States feel they must sacrifice the lives of thousands I have no doubtd they will do it. Be those lives American or not. Just so it be known I don't think its the President who is in charge here either.

    Think of all the things that came of 9/11. How many of us went and bought flags to post on our houses or cars. We have invaded 2 nations because of the resulting "War On Terror". America went from being a dispised nation to a sympathetic one. Don't forget that Bushes popularity skyrocketed.

    What scare me though is that people have put away their flags. The country has gone back to being hated again.

    Is another tragedy of some sort headed our way?

  15. Crowd control at its finest we should start our own movement. :)

  16. Our own movement?

    Who would his movement consist of?
    What would the agenda of this movement be?

    I'm all for movements and all.
    I just don't think most people will be committed to any such movements

  17. I'm committed... somebody is going to have to help people see the bullshit for what it is...if we can't spark a movement at least we'll enligten others who might have that chance...I'm all for risks...especially for causes for freedom....I support those who I feel have integrity and are honest...not too many of those in the politics now a days...so there's only us. I don't know ya'll but I'm down for whatever.

  18. Well hopefully forums like this blog well help enlighten others. My main objective is to help people open their eyes and not blindly follow the establishments. If something more comes of it then I am all for it and more than willing to be part of it. If I believe in what the ultimate goal of that movement is

  19. to respond to jakka from a couple comments ago... the government isn't gonna hurt americans because we put our flags away... we're still not fighting back so we don't pose a real threat, ya know?

    i think innocent lives are taken when the government wants to make major moves... so the next time they wanna start a war or raid or turn this country against others, then we'll see tragedy... when we start to fight back then the government will do what it can to keep us quiet... until any of that happens we're safe

    as far as starting a movement... i think things like this blog is a good way to start... its a good way to find like-minded ppl, or help educated people who are eager to learn... anything more than that i think is good to take slowly... once cause at a time...

    me, for example... i'm making small moves... i wanna help get prop 8 thrown out for good by public awareness and by making the choice to not get married until every american is allowed equal marital rights... i wanna raise money to help those affected by conflict diamonds... i started this blog to inspire social change...

    its gonna be a slow process, but if everyone can get together and do something, then it starts to add up to some serious change...

  20. I don't want to speak for anyone else, but its hard for me to take any propsitions of a movement from someone I know nothing at all about.

  21. The anonymous person that wanted to start a movement. I was just continuing my aninymous rant over here. I'm done now though. Sorry bout that.

  22. awww... gotcha, lol... well, i think anonymous was just speaking his mind... and what was on his mind was starting a movement... movements stem from personal experiences and passions and im sure he/she wouldn't start a movement with people he/she doesn't know either

  23. I guess ill just go back to my conspiricy theory babble again

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    What do you do the day before you plan to be part of the greatest act of Terror in American history?

    Well if your Mohamed Atta you and one of your fellow hijackers go on a road trip.

    Nevermind the fact that they were already in Boston; the place where the plane they were planning on hijacking in just a few hours was departing from.

    So for some unknown reason they rent a car and drive from BOSTON to Portland, Maine. This forces them to have to catch a flight back to Boston, Ma in the morning leaving them just over an hour between the two flights.

    Due to Mohamed Atta's known ties to Al Queda was flagged by CAPPS(Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System). Basically its letting security know that he is a potential terrorist threat and his bags need to be closely checked.

    Inspite of that fact he makes it only the flight departing from Portland, box cutter and all.

    Atta makes it to Boston with very little time to spare. Since he had to buy his tickets from Portland as a stand alone ticket he had to go through security all over again. Again he is flagged by CAPPS as a potential terrorist yet manages again to somehow smuggle his box cutter onboard.

    Now you would almost think its Mohamed Atta's lucky day, except for the fact that his 2 bags didn't make L.A. bound flight. His luggage and his alone were the only bags to suffer this fate. CAPPS had managed to slow down the bag transfer just long enough to make that happen.

    As we all know he and 4 others were successful in their attempts to hijack the plane. What very few know is that Atta while intending to speak to the passengers of the plane sent a message to the Boston Air Traffic Control Tower basically leaving behind more evidence as to his involvement.

    Lets not forget the luggage. In one of his bags was a will, flight similator video for a the very same type of jet he was, as well as instructions on how to carry himself and to bring a box cutter. I have also read reports that in his second bag they found a list of the names of all of the other hijackers.

    His story ends as Flight 11 crashes into the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Although one of the other hijackers had a lil moment to shine. At least his passport did.


    Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower with such destructive force that the notoriously sturdy black box was never located.

    One thing that was found from the airplane wreckage was a passport. This wasn't just any passport though. This particular passport belonged to one Satam al-Suqami. If that name doesn't quite ring any bells then allow me to assist you. That passport was until just a few moments prior property of one of the very hijackers who crashed Flight 11 into the North Tower.

    You might be wondering how the passport managed to survive such as incident. I find everything that lil passport overcame to be quite miraculous.

    1. The passport managed to survive the collision when the airplane smashed into the building and the subsequent explosion.

    2. It failed to catch fire or become incinerated although being soaked in jet fuel.

    3. Upon safely reaching the grounds outside of the building it manage to be picked up by a random passerby who passed it onto a detective not too long before the South Tower collapsed.

    What are the odds?


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